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I am Back Gerry made me!!!!!
03/31/2012, Vineland

In February I was in Miami for the Miami Boat Show. I had the great pleasure to meet with Gerry ODonoghue the author of the Blog "The Incredible Hull" and to have a tour of the TIH.
Gerry has been an inspiration to me with ideals and the passion he has for the Whitby 42. When I meet Gerry in person in February one of the first sentences out of him was "Your Blog is Shit" and he was right. I told Gerry I would do better so here I am.
Although I have not blog in a very long time, work on Ocean Dove has not stopped. I am still planning of heading south the fall on 2014. I will start blogging on the different projects I been planning, have started or completed over the last year or so.

I removed the halogen track lighting above the galley sinks and installed 3 led lights. These LEDs are 12 Volt purchased from Home Depot.

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04/01/2012 | Gerry
Yes, that's completely unacceptable, ignoring your blog while doing amazing work on your boat. It should be the other way around, as in my case.
Hot water Heater in E.R.
01/30/2011, Vineland Ont. Canada

I was aboard Ocean Dove today and mounted the hot water heater in it's new home. I still have to pipe it up but that could be a summer job. I have storage above and below the heater as it suspended. The platform for the battery boxes below the salon floor was installed so the wiring and the batteries will be next. I have 3 weeks off so hopeful I can get some jobs crossed off the list.

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01/30/2011 | Gerry
Great minds etc. That's exactly where mine is going.
02/01/2011 | John
Looks a bit high if it will have an engine coolant loop ? Perhaps it's an optical illusion.
02/01/2011 | Derek Keeping
You are right the heater is a little high for the main engine but the generator when installed will have separate heat exchanger mounted level with the hot water heater. The generator will be running more than the main engine so it made sense to use it to heat the water.
Ocean Dove needs a New Wind Engine
01/18/2011, Vineland Ont. Canada

Ocean Dove needs a New Wind Engine

After re-engine Ocean Dove last year I am looking in the near future to replace her worn out sails.
Ocean Dove is a "Twin Head Sail Ketch", Hull #328 built in 1986 with optional Bowsprit removable inner fore stay for Jib staysail
At present she has:
130% Genoa that was recut from the original 150% genoa on a Harken MkIII furling system.
Jib staysail is original with no furling system.
Main Sail is on a Facnor, Roller furling (on/in the mast) system,
Mizzen is original with a loose foot.
The spinnaker and staysail are original and in very good condition.

I have had issues with the Facnor main furling system. The Facnor system has an Aluminum extrusion bolted to the aft side of mast that the sail rolls into.
This fall on the way to the winter berth the main sail jam half way out as I was unfurling it. I did get the main sail to furl back into the mast and that is where it is staying for the winter. Next spring after launch I will go up the mast on a windless day and try to unfurl the main sail.

I have a wish list for sails:
New 135% Genoa foam luff, 8 oz Dacron.
New furling Jib staysail foam Luff 8 oz Dacron
New cross cut loose foot main sail. 2 reefs, 2 full +2 short batons, Tides Track system and a stack pack lazy jack system.
New mizzen sail 2 reefs, 2 full +2 short batons, Tides Track system and a stack pack lazy jack system.

Before I start pouring money into sails I would like some opinions from others, on what works for them, what didn't, what they would in my position.
So to all give me our advice I am all ears.

Derek and Darlene
Ocean Dove

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01/19/2011 | John
Hi Derek: Wow, you are really doing her up right!
Good Idea adding furling on the staysail, you will use it more.
I think 2+2battens and foam luffs are for performance and detract from the durability of the sail. Have seen a moldy foam luff, maybe they have better material now.
Do you really need 135%? Where are you thinking of sailing?
Remember you will never make your W42 into a race boat, she is a sturdy cruiser, keep the sails appropriate to that pedigree.

Can you launch your spinnaker shorthanded? Get it down again?

01/21/2011 | Gerry
My limited experience suggests the following;

1. Get all your price quotes, local and offshore lofts.

2. Negotiate with you local loft. I ended up getting a sail from an online dealer (8years ago) through the local loft who then fitted and guaranteed the sail at no extra cost to me.

3. The quality of the Dacron sailcloth is critical. I believe there is a lot of variety out there.

4. 130% genoa is plenty big enough, I may go with 110% but it will be a Yankee (high cut clew). I will rely on the Cruising chute/code zero for light airs.

5. Tides track is the way to go. Also check out the Dutchman track system;

6. I but a stack pack on my last boat and its the way to go. Check out Mack Pack.

Have Fun


02/01/2011 | John
Agree with Gerry on the high clew.
On our last boat we had a 110% with high clew that we used almost exclusively on our trip. We kept the old, light, deck sweeping 130% on board but didn't use it till we got back to Lake Ontario. The high clew gives you better visibility and won't catch waves when off the wind (hopefully you will never be sailing to windward).
04/06/2012 | Greg Wright
I went with a Yankee cut 110 genoa 8 oz. 9.5 oz staysail cut for higher winds. 8.5 oz mizzen. I have the main to do yet. North sails. She sails well with this package.
Making room for the generator
01/07/2011, Vineland Ont. Canada

Making room for the generator.

I have to make room in the engine room for my 5.5 Kw. generator but this has a cascade effect.
I need to move the batteries and their boxes from the engine room. I want to relocate the batteries to below the salon floor aft. A new 12 gal hot water heater installed 2 years ago now occupies this space. The hot water heater will be relocated to engine room. If it sound like a vicious circle you would be right.

Hot Water Heater

The hot water heater will be relocated to platform built in the engine room portside between aft end of the port fuel tank and the aft Engine room bulkhead. This space is a dead space between the Vetus water muffler and shipside as the floor area follows the curve of the hull and is generally difficult to get to. The all stainless steel hot water heater is, rectangular in shape 12.5"x12.5"x30" long, so there will be a storage area 15" X 30" above the heater and a small area below it.


I have 3 Blue Sea battery boxes each holding 2-6 volt battery. I can't fit all 3 boxes with batteries into the space below the salon floor to my liking. I will go with two boxes 4-6 volt total 450 amp-hrs.

The refrigeration (almost forgot)

The refrigerant unit will require relocating. At present I have only 1 refrigerator (Cold Beer) unit, the second refreeze (Ice for drinks) unit will be installed later. I will build a platform portside fwd close to the deck head for both units.
The units are water/air cooled, the engine room ventilation system will be piped to ensure that there will always be good airflow for cooling.

Engine room ventilation

I am installing 2-4" 230 CFM fans (as there is none) that will exhaust and or vent into the port side cockpit separated fwd and aft coaming storage pockets. An 4" low profile screw on vent hood will be fitted over each opening, each vent hood can be removed and replaced with a screwed on cover to seal the engine room from the weather deck if need.
Each blower will be connected to a DPDT switch so they can independently switched from blowing to venting the engine room as needed. The switches will be mounted on the steering stand.

I will post more info on the Marinzing of the Onan generator so

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What a summer it has been
01/01/2011, Vineland Ont. Canada

I haven't blog all summer and what a summer it has been. The Admiral (Darlene) broke her right ankle May 23/10 (so I was her Chauffeur all summer) Darlene went to work September 1st/10.
We sold a house, bought a house, moved a house, and we both started new jobs September 1st. Ocean Dove took a back seat all summer.
On Sunday September 19th I moved Ocean Dove to her winter port, and Wednesday September 22nd she was pulled and put on the hard for the winter.

I do have some comments on the new engine and drive train. The Vetus engine is very quiet and smooth which probably has to do with the engine's automotive heritage (Hyundai). The Campbell Sailor Propeller has performed well. I had to get use to the prop-walk as it is now to port and not as strong as the old propeller. I believe the light air performance of Ocean Dove is better; I don't get the feeling that we are dragging a bucket behind her when you get a puff of wind and Ocean Dove starts to accelerate.
Speed wise with the new engine I get about 6.7 kts @ 2200 rpm (max torque 2200 rpm and best fuel economy is 2400 rpm). When I push the throttle up to 3500 rpm (Max rpm is 4000 and 80 HP) the stern squats and I can do 8 + kts. It is good to know I can push it if needed.

There are still a number of summer work projects that did not get completed, and a new list of winter jobs to start. I hope to be ready for an early launch in the spring.

Jobs to be completed
Mount the NavPod and instruments.
Replace covers on drinking water tanks and replace all hoses.
Replace all hoses to and from the holding tank.
Remove and dispose of 60 gals of old diesel fuel (5 plus years old). Open and clean fuel tanks and install fuel level gauges.

I have purchase a Navigation Light panel from BOREL MANUFACTURING INC the panel has a outline of the vessel with LED lights that illuminate to indicate which Navigation lights are on i.e. anchor lights, running lights, etc. I hope to free up 3 breakers in my main panel by moving the navigation lights to this separate panel.

I have been playing with is Window based Fuwai chartplotting software. I have an EeeBox PC 2gb, 80gb HD, it is about the size of a thin paperback book low power max 5.5 amps at 12volts. Quiet with no fan. I am using an old 17" LCD monitor than can run off of 12 volts about 5 amps. A Raymarine E85001 Interface Box connect SeaTalk with PC through a USB to Serial adapter.
Friends that know me would not believe that I would ever use a Windows base PC as for the past 20+ years I have used Mac. There is Mac chartplotting software however the issue is how will the PC to integrate with the others systems SSB, Pactor modem, Sailmail, Weatherfax, AIS, Naviconics charts and Raymarine autopilot, instruments,

I had planned to have only 12 volts power systems aboard Ocean Dove, larger alternator (150 amps), solar panels, wind generator, 120 AC would be supplied by a 2000 watt inverter, or shore power 30 amps.

Reality Check
The realization that only way to keeping the Admiral happy when it's hot is to keep her cool, and 120 volts AC unit is the only AC unit with enough BTU (16000) to do the job.
Now with a Generator in Ocean Dove's future I had to do some re-thinking.
I recently purchase a used Onan HDKBB 5.5 kw diesel generator I plan to marinzes it and install it into Ocean Dove.
The Onan HDKBB 5.5 kw has a rad cooled Kubota Z482 2-cylinder diesel with a belt driven generator in a sound enclosure. Onan makes a similar marine unit MDKHA for about $7000+ US. I looked at the Onan parts needed to marinze i.e. (heat exchanger, water cooled exhaust manifold and sea water pump etc.) total $2200+ or more than 125% I paid for the original generator.
The hunt is on to find the bits and pieces I need to marinzes this unit and install it and hopefully for a budgeted total cost of $2500 Can (I am not cheap just thrifty).
I will remove most of the sound enclosure to reduce the size (19" x 25" foot print) and weight of the unit (300 lbs) and for ease of maintenance. If the unit is too noisy I will increase the sound proofing in the engine room that will have the advantage of reducing all the engine room noise.
Most of the factory installed generator I have seen in Whitby's are direct drive (generator bolted to the back of the engine) and are installed fore and aft with the port side of the generator tight against the port fuel tank. A friend and fellow Whitby owner Dave Bellows (Luna Sea) spend half a day up side down removing the sound guard and the starter from his generator (7.5 kw) and another half a day installing it, he did it twice as there were problems with the rebuilt starter. It was clear to me that factory had not installed the generator for the ease of maintenance.
I plan to install the generator with the belt drive against the port fuel tank with just enough room to replace the belt (1500 hrs), this will leave the other 3 sides open for regular maintenance.
The installation of a 120 volts generator opens up other systems that need to be re-though.
Do I need a 900 amp-hrs battery bank? Or will 450 amp-hrs do?
The main battery bank can be charged with the 100 amps charger in the 2000 kw inverter when the generator is running.
I will install the 150 amps alternator on the main engine but should I install the 90 amp alternator on the generator, as there is not one installed now?
There a larger number of different models of water maker are available are 120 volts now which one???? Just more things to keep me busy.

Derek and Darlene
Ocean Dove

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01/01/2011 | Gerry
Welcome back and enough of your excuses. An absence of this magnitude will not be tolerated in the future. If there are no blogs to read some of may have to do some actual work.

Happy New Year

01/04/2011 | Gerry
Check out Coastal Explorer navigation software, excellent.

Yes I have not bloged latey
12/30/2010, Vineland

Selling a house, breaking a leg (Admiral), buying a house, moving a house, start a new 24/7 job as Chief Engineer on the M.T. Hamilton Energy has cut into the time I have had to Blog and work on Ocean Dove. Today I put my paying job up on dry dock (see Pic). I have the first 3 days in a row in 4 month starting tomorrow and I will be on Ocean Dove to continue her refit, stand by future posting.

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