Scott wrote this update:
After flying to Panama and waiting 11 days at a rustic YWAM base in the sticks outside of Panama city, we finally joined the Caribbean
Reach at Shelter Cove on the Caribbean side of Panama.
It was great to be back at Shelter Cove, we had a great time in 2010. Finally we got to meet the guys and see the ship but the
list of projects and problems was beyond belief. I have, with the help of my crew been rebuilding some of the wire rigging, assembling and installing the Harken roller furler, getting sails resown, re-certifying the life-raft, provisioning, refueling, rebuilding
the water maker, rebuilding the hydraulic steering, diagnosing oil
consumption and leaks, replacing the engine water pump, installing
pumps, fans, wiring, plumping, ETC, ETC.....
Our students flew in just days before leaving Panama. You see most of the team on the dock in front of our 'beamy lady', Caribbean Reach. Check the gallery for more pictures.
The ship is now impounded in Golfito, Costa Rica as we wait for our
lost Coast Guard Documentation to arrive from the states. The original was sent to the USCG for the renewal process, we believe. USCG did FedEx it to us when they heard we were in a Foreign Port and needed it.
We are also awaiting a very slow shipment of engine parts to arrive and clear customs. I have been busy going to see the Port
Captain, Customs, Immigration, and quarantine in order to clear in my 15 crew and students. I will need to repeat the process in order to leave for Guatemala.
The YWAM team has been very busy giving out hundreds of Bibles, doing skits for the young kids, hosting the mercy truck for free dental and doctor care for the poor and the sick. All of us are very hot and sweaty in the tropical heat.
Thank God for fans over the bunks at night.
God is good and He gives us strength to tackle the problems. The out-reach team has reported the joy of many saved souls and we have all had many chances to give our testimony of Gods grace.
We just paid $115 to release our engine parts from San Jose and because Customs is closed on Sundays and Mondays, we'll go tomorrow to start the check out process after being here 18 days vs. our planned 10 days. All in all, Fish Hook Marina has been a great place to be stuck, can't say enough about the manager, Maikol's help in many situations.
http://www.eyeotw.org/2010/03/our-canal-transit.html --We're actually on the Caribbean reach but if you want to see us going through the canal in 2010, click on the eyeotw above. We just went through the canal Fri/Sat, 3/16 and 3/17 but in the YWAM ship, Caribbean Reach. We're now anchored in La Playita trying to get projects done in the 'big city'. We have 7 people aboard, 2 leave Saturday and 11 more arrive 3/29. We are 'relief skippers' for YWAM and we'll have a team of 'youth' to take to Costa Rica and Guatemala for April and May. Check out more pictures in my gallery.
02/20/2013, Honolulu, Hawaii
Well it seems we are YWAMers.
We are flying to Panama on the 25th and join the motor-sailor,
Caribbean Reach at Shelter Bay in Colon, Panama to become the new captain and first mate. The boat is 74 feet x 22 feet ferro-cement ketch that weighs 86 tons. Yes, it is the exact opposite of our fast light Celestial, but it is a ministry right?
We will join a crew of 4 to take it thru the canal and up the coast to Costa Rica, Guatemala, and Mexico with about 10 ministry students.
It is a 3 month volunteer commitment for us and YWAM is excited to get an experienced captain. We will leave Celestial in Honolulu and return in late May.
https://share.delorme.com/share/BrettCurtis/rxMap/MapSharePassword?uid=8028 (please email me for the password)
http://www.risingsun.ms/index.htm Has more info on the boat and ministry as well.
Be sure to check out our gallery of new pics from Oahu.
We will be still be at [email protected] so let us know how and what you're doing.
01/30/2013, Sunset Beach
We couldn't resist hopping a bus and going up to see the 30 foot waves reported in the news here on Oahu. The North Shore is having competitions this month so the waves were expected. But for non surfers like us, it was a new event. Be sure to check out our friend, Kevin Smith's video as well and give him a thumbs up/like if you agree, its great!
On the way back, we decided to hitch a ride and a local, Gary let us ride in the back of his small truck (he's used to giving surfers and their boards rides as well) to Haleiwa but then took us to a number of more sites to see where LOST was filmed, where sky gliders were coming down, where a beer commercial was being filmed and much more.
01/21/2013, Honolulu, Hawaii
Had a great Christmas with the family! We stayed in Seattle until Jan. 8th then had 20 members of the Navy Yacht Club fly into town so we spent most of last week with them! Climbed the Makapuu Lighthouse Trail, had dinners at both the Waikiki and the Hawaii Yacht Club and 17 of them joined us on our boat for Happy Hour! It was a tight fit, believe me! The whales have arrived and we saw quite a few during our hike. We stayed for 3 nights in the Hale Koa just to be close to the activities.
Using our bikes almost daily to get around town and explore new areas. We will move Celestial to Kewalo Basin in a week or so. Maybe even venture up to Pokai Bay again. Stay tuned!
11/19/2012, Pukao Bay
Yikes, I have a month to catch up! In that time we experienced our 2nd tsunami ever, rented a car for a week and had a great stay at Ho'okena, Kealakekua and Honokohau. Yesterday we came up to Puako Bay to see our friend Michael on his boat Fianna whom we met down in Fanning and found Pukao to be a beautiful clear bay as well. It can be pretty exposed but it was fine last night.
So back on 10/26/12, Friday, we made it to Ho'okena and saw lots of activity on the beach and in the water. Spinner dolphins were cruising the bay so people were snorkeling all around us. It was a little unnerving trying to anchor around swimming people but our Cruising guide by the Mehaffys identified the best spot of sand to anchor in and the swimmers wanted coral areas so all was well.
The waves were a little daunting to get ashore so we just enjoyed the dolphins as well and planned to go ashore Saturday. We still weren't really sure about landing the dinghy through the surf but one guy beckoned to us to follow his lead as to where to land and it worked fine. He was from Maine and had seen our hailing port, Mere Point, Maine so he wanted to help a fellow Mainer!
The Park was wonderful! Plenty of showers although they were outside, Scott and I stood side by side in our bathing suits and appreciated every minute of it. Later we bought a cold drink and an ice cream cone from a local vendor and enjoyed watching all the activity. We couldn't help noticing one lady placing numerous flower arrangements on tables and asked what the occasion was. She said it was her niece's 2 year old birthday and would we like to stay and enjoy lunch with them? Wow, Hawaiian hospitality at its finest! Later we found out half the people there were 'adopted' by this extended family and more amazing, they used to live in Washington State and knew the area we lived in.
We stayed onshore a little longer than we wanted to since we were having such a good time but both Scott and I watched the waves building and knew we shouldn't delay it much longer. Finally we broke away but asked 3 men to assist in launching us out. That really helped because it's easy for the waves to push you back ashore while we're trying to get the engine started.
The rest of the evening we relaxed and went online to get updates on Hurricane Sandy. By 9pm it was pitch dark and we hear someone calling out to us. It was a girl on a paddle board with a flashlight in her teeth. She asked if we had heard there was a tsunami warning for 10:30PM coming from Vancouver Island!! She mentioned that the police had told her not to come out but she wasn't going to leave without us knowing about it. We didn't have our VHF radio on but quickly turned it on and verified with the Coast Guard that a warning was in effect. We looked over to the shore and saw the police rounding campers up and moving them to higher ground but they hadn't set off a tsunami alarm. WE KNEW what one sounded like because we were awoken at 5:45am on Palmyra as Honolulu Coast Guard remotely set one off for the Palmyra crew to respond to. That turned out to be a rescue request and not a tsunami.
We thanked our 'angel of mercy' and within a few minutes, were headed to deeper water. That was only a few miles offshore but we had to continue to drift until the Coast Guard removed the restrictions to reenter harbors. In all, we drifted and sailed jib only for 15 miles and ended up in Kealakekua which was 7 miles away from Ho'okena, entering the harbor when light finally came over the mountain, around 7am.
We could tell the water was churned up the next day and waves were breaking onshore but we hear it was nothing compared to March 2011 when Japan's tsunami hit. Those waves washed houses off their foundation and people could see one floating out in the middle of Kealakekua. We were in Oceanside, CA when the 2011 one hit and we had to decide whether to go or stay in the harbor. We chose to stay because we had very little time to get ready and leave. Coming in or out of the bar while it was happening would have been hazardous. But we certainly took THIS tsunami more seriously.
We explored Captain's Cook monument and the hikes around it. The waters are a marine conservatory and fantastic for seeing clouds of fish! There were two huge moray eels swaying in the current, half way out of a hole--scary! Great place for snorkeling even though tourists come in droves.
The picture here is from one of Hawaii's historical sights. Although we're glad the KAPU system is gone, KAPU signs seem to abound in the parks! In the course of a week, we drove to three national parks plus South Point and the Kilauea Crater, well worth the trip. I put on the coat and hiking shoes and explored lots of forests, steam vents and the lava tube at the Crater. South Point, the most southern point in the USA is full of wind mills. As we approached South Point by sea, in the dark, night all we could see was a string of lights so coming by car in the light explained what we saw. In all, we feel our month on the big island was great, got to know it much better.
10/26/2012, Big Island
After eight days we've only made it to two bays, a mile apart! Okoe Bay was a great first stop. We snorkeled a couple of times and took the dinghy ashore to check out the area. Be sure to see our pictures in the gallery. "We're not in Kansas anymore, Toto" kept coming to mind. LOL. It looked more like Mars than Hawaii, the lush island. The beaches are all black, there are lava outcrops on either side of the beach and we were lucky someone had a level road leading out of the beach or we would have never been able to walk past the beach. It looks like rocks exploded from a volcano eruption and nothing has changed for years.
My picture shows these different colored rocks that made a stone path leading to ??? We guessed it was to a burial mound and wondered if we would be in trouble for visiting it. There wasn't any marker, just a mound and some fake flowers. Hmmmm. The stone path went at least a mile inland but we didn't explore it further. We didn't see another soul. We thought it was funny that we came from Fanning and Palmyra and saw more people on each of these islands than here on the big island!
The snorkeling along the northeast coast was great. There was a good amount of fish and the coral was growing on top of a cliff edge so that was fun to look down at. There weren't any dolphins while we were in the water but as we were washing up afterwards, I saw them enter the bay so I donned my mask and jumped in again! I was close enough to hear their squeals and saw babies next to moms and some swimming belly to belly (making more babies?). I got out the underwater camera for the 'next visit' but it never came.
Our Hawaiian cruising guide by the Mehaffy's gave some good location shots but their Lat/Long for the anchorage was way off. Beware of that. The Lat/Long I gave above is for the next bay we visited, Honomalino Bay. The book said this bay was very deserted but we saw people on the beach every day. It is prettier than Okoe because of Palm trees, in my humble opinion.
The weather turned to total haze (probably VOG) and waves increased so visibility was bad in the water as well. It made an awesome sunset though. Honomalino's beach was very steep and with the increased waves we didn't venture off the boat. Both anchorages had no facilities and we haven't had rain for over eight days so my wash is stacking up. Well, on to the next bay, Ho'okena, 12 miles north where water may be available.
10/20/2012, Okoe Bay, Hawaii
We are now back in the USA, the big island and it feels good to be at anchor vs. racing up from Fanning. Here's Scott's story about why we're back a month earlier than we anticipated:
Although the US does not require an exit paper and in the past we have sailed to Kiribati without one, the officials on Christmas island who oversee Fanning by SSB are JERKS and requested the paper or we couldn't stay.
So our options were to leave immediately or pay an insane $900 fine (bribe). We did not want to pay as it would send the wrong message that Americans were either too rich or too easy and should be fleeced.
Unfortunately the next boat in, "Bravo", did pay up because they had prearranged to pick up crew at Christmas.
After being kicked out of Fanning and having used up our one week grace period to repair a ripped seam and install a new 4th reef in our main sail, it was time to check the weather fax and set sail for Hawaii.
Now Hawaii is 940 Nmi away, as the bird fly's but because it is almost directly upwind in the NE trade winds, the question is how best to sail there?
In light of the fact that we were very close to the equator at just
less than 4 degrees north, my solution was to take advantage of the generally lighter wind and often southeast shifts to try to get all of my "easting" before hitting the strong NE trades at about 7 deg. north.
So off we sailed around the south end of Fanning and struck a
starboard tack course just south of east for a day and half, which
meant we sailed 300 Nmi without getting any closer to Hawaii. This
plan as crazy as it sounds worked out perfectly as the winds slowly
shifted from SE thru E to NE and our course described a huge arc
finally pointing directly at the big island and all of this without a sail change or tacking Celestial.
Crossing the ITCZ (inter-tropical convergence zone) is almost always a challenge of light shifty wind or huge squally thunderstorms accompanied with very heavy wind.
We were blessed and had only a little of that to deal with. Soon we
were reducing sail as we crossed 8 deg. north and really felt the
teeth of the NE trades. Our daily average of 160 Nmi quickly jumped to 180 as we reduced sail down to our new 4th reef and our #3 jib.On the next day the wind increased to 25 knts and we spent 2 nights hard on the wind with only the jib. Sailing at 8-9 knts Celestial covered an amazing 197 Nmi upwind against the current.
We were throwing spray all the way over the boat and taking water down both rails as we blew thru the waves at 9 knts. Our 4th reef, that we just sewed on in Fanning, was perfect when the wind was closer to 20 knts and we just kept on blasting away. Donna was as always a super sailor, she is always ready to help, stand watch, reef sails, navigate, and put up with her speed crazed Captain. We raced past South Cape and into the calm waters of the Kona coast a 02:00 on 10/18/12 just 6 days 14hr and 1,148 Nmi after leaving Fanning Atoll.
In a calm anchorage after our passage,
Now my turn to tell you a bit about Fanning. We loved returning to the place we were at in 1989, seeing a house we visited, and a rusty barge and wreck still in the same places. We enjoyed Tyrone, a shipping agent, Bruno, a frenchman who offered a bed and breakfast, Ruby and Judas who baked bread especially for us and more locals.
I purposely brought papers from our old trip that I wanted to put on the computer so I had these memories: 1989: After 3 weeks on Palmyra, we sailed another 250 miles to Fanning Island where 800 I-Kiribati live. We were the only visiting yacht for 2 weeks and the resident welcomed us into their homes and we learned a lot about their lives. We took a ride on a back of a flatbed tractor to an old cable house that now housed a school. I recorded a recipe for 6 loaves of Fanning Bread (Takatic) by Terenga girl - Teaopiti. We learned hello/Mauri, thank you, Korrapa and goodbye, sabu (sp?) and cong cong for delicious!
The only drawback was Copra Beetles. They are ¼" long, black with a hard shell, and they don't bite but the almost took over the boat in our drawers and lining our hatch screens while we were anchored too close to a drying coconut shed. Luckily they didn't reproduce so that by the time we reached Bora Bora, 1300 miles and 10 days later, they were all dead and/or gone.
Now in 2012 there are 2000 I-Kiribati living there but in some ways, no better off. It took over a week to find someone making bread because the island was running out of flour. They use US and Australian dollars interchangeably and the last Kiribati coin was from 1989 so we bought one of those for our collection. They no longer export copra/dried coconut, they were exporting seaweed but that failed so they mainly live on fish, rice, breadfruit, papayas and bananas with little to spare for gringos willing to pay. Luckily we got some locals to bring us some lobster and we paid $10 each for them!! YUMMMM. We paid $20 for 4 papaya and one pumpkin and $6 for 6 medium onions but we were happy to have some fresh items.
Scott pondered what they could do to improve the island and spoke to a few guys about his ideas. Unfortunately their thought was to charge us $900 because we didn't have clearance papers from the US. We were the 4th boat out of 5 who didn't have them so we had to leave after 1 week when we had planned to stay 4 weeks. If it had been $200 we would have paid it, but not $900. We happily had already paid the $70 to their officials to check us in and for anchoring fees. Our friends who had stopped in 2008 and 2006 didn't know about this charge so I will be checking into it and letting all the sailing magazines and yacht clubs know of this unfortunate event. We had hoped to also visit Christmas Island but that is also Kiribati so that was out of the question. Instead we headed back to Hawaii while it was still the hurricane season, not our first choice.
Already the weather is overcast and low winds day after day instead of the beautiful sunshine of Fanning but we don't miss the strong currents or heavy winds that were down their way also.
We're excited to visit the big island. We were last here by boat in 1989 as well. It was our first landfall after 17 days at sea with Blue Jay, our J36.
We made it to Fanning after 52 hours of leaving Palmyra. It is only 200 miles southeast but we had to sail 330 miles, avg 6.3 mph, first due east then tacking southwest but having to tack twice again to make a landfall. The winds and current would not cooperate at all. We got here on a Sunday night at 5pm and their three officials 'rented' a Hobie cat for $20 to come check us in.
They also requested $10 overtime pay for each for the 3 of them and asked us to come to shore the next day to finalize our paperwork. We came in the next day and paid another $20 anchorage fee for 3 months anchoring (which we don't plan to use completely).
Sailors: be aware that you need a Zarpe/clearance papers from your last port to enter Kiribati. Unfortunately we are now the third boat who has arrived here without a Zarpe and they are still determining what to do with us. We hear the choice is either pay $500 (later this fine went up to $900) to be declared legal and receive a clearance for the next port. We hear Christmas Island charges $100 vs. $20 for the anchorage fee and if we don't get the clearance from Fanning, we couldn't visit Christmas so we'll just go back to Hawaii if there's a problem.
So our first impressions of Fanning: it has the beauty of coconut palms, a large lagoon and friendly people. It's nice to have a 3 month permit vs. a 7 day permit on Palmyra. We hear we can buy bananas, papayas and pumpkins but haven't seen them yet. We see people riding bikes so we want to get ours out and ride around. Michael on Fianna, the next boat over has been here for 5 months and says he swims in the lagoon all the time so that's good to know. Unfortunately, the island doesn't have flour so no one is making bread and their water catchment is questionable so we're praying for rain although we're fine for now.
As we started to talk about how to save on water again, I happened to come across my article that was published in Cruising World May 1997 called 'A Very Unique Water-Saving Technique.' I was paid $50 for submitting it to Bruce Bingham of Cruising World back in 1996 as we concluded our 8 year circumnavigation. I truly hadn't seen it for years! I just wrote the words but when it appeared in the Magazine, it shows the back side of a lady taking a shower with the sprayer which we thought was pretty funny and definitely something I wouldn't have sent in.
Donna and Scott Hansen from Seattle, WA, have been using common spray bottles for all sorts of purposes aboard their J-36, Bluejay, especially since beginning their circumnavigation. How about saving lots of precious water by using spray bottles for a quick body cool-down on sweltering days, an alternative to sponge bathing, wetting and rinsing dishes when washing (the Hansens usually wash in seawater then rinse in fresh), rinsing toothbrushes, for hand washing, and cleaning the engine or other mechanical equipment. Donna says there are countless other practical ways of using mist instead of a solid stream under pressure. And Scott reminds us that spraying also saves an amazing amount of stored battery power. (Worth $50, right?)
Now that we reached Fanning Island, we started to think about being here in 1989 and see what we could remember. A tug boat rusting in the lagoon is still here! A barge that pushed us into some shallows is still here. We walked up to a house that looked familiar and which belonged to a Michael in 1989. His niece Disa lives there now and Michael in on Tarawa with an exporting business so we gave her our card and asked her to say hello from us. We asked about Alan, an Englishman whom we got to know back then. Unfortunately, we're told he left 'in the night' for Samoa with $30,000 of the island's money. He was caught so that was good.
So we may spend the $5 for internet to update you at the end of our stay here but until then, we'll enjoy a tropical island that allows you to swim, surf and spearfish where you want and although we won't get many fresh veggies/fruit, we hope to get some and enjoy the laid-back lifestyle that the islands are known for.
For a picture, I'm still using one from Palmyra but it looks a lot like Fanning only 200 miles further south.
Well, no murders were committed here but the curse continues as a skipper of a delivery had to be medevaced off Palmyra with a head injury, staff infected leg wound and exhaustion.
He left behind a 65 ft. wooden schooner that he said leaked like a water hose if it heeled at all. He was trying to take it from HI to NZ with two other personnel but they 'got off' on Fanning Island so Capt. Rob tried to motor sail it back to Hawaii by himself and no autopilot.
That event went from 545am when Honoulu remotely sounded a Tsunami Warning Alarm to have Palmyra personnel go assist him, to 6pm when the Coast Guard landed and took him to Queens Hospital, Hawaii. Yesterday we went with the island admin. to look over the hull and rigging and help remove all the soggy paper products molding on the boat. Scott doesn't feel you could trust sailing the boat back to Hawaii and I couldn't stand the constant leakage. There were no fans on the boat so being down below was unbearable.
The picture you see is our contribution to the Yacht Club wall. We also enhanced our picture from '89. It was fun to see drawings from people we have met since '89 along our circumnavigation.
On the brighter side, we loved our short stay, walked all the paths with their self-guided tour paper, saw coconut crabs, tons of birds, ugly huge spiders, lots and lots of hermit and land crabs, old military buildings and more. Our one snorkel showed off the reef sharks, pretty coral and moderate fish. We needed to go further out to see big fish but it rained almost every day so we didn't fit in a #2 snorkel. While in our dinghy, we came up behind a 5 foot reef shark who had two tiny yellow pilot fish that didn't leave the area just in front of him mouth. We both circled each other at least 10 times before we laughed and went on. In the lagoon we saw some huge sea turtles and manta rays came to the shallows where a light was shining because the plankton are drawn to the light and that's what they eat. Be sure to check out the gallery.
All the fresh food is gone but made new friends and although we told them the $250/$350 will deter many sailors, we're glad we bit the bullet and came. Having endless internet allowed us to post this and let people know we came and went. Thank you, Palmyra.
Our passage ended up being 1061 miles, 6 days 6.5 hours. We averaged 7.0 kph, 13.8 knots max, agv 169 mile days with our best day being 206 miles on the fourth day out. We had rain squalls every single day. The first day we fought the confused Kauai Channel seas, the second day we were beating, having to hand steer as the wind angles kept shifting with the squalls. Third day we were still beating but waves were smoothing out. Fourth day winds picked up and we headed straight for Palmyra and made the 206 max. Fifth day back to only 151 miles with mixed seas and current against us. Last day we put up the full main to rage the last 70 miles to make Palmyra by 4pm.
We used the 3 'n 3 package - our #3 jib and 3 reefs in the main. We've found this manages most winds we find, between 15-30 knots over the deck. Nothing major broke and we kept the saltwater outside the boat! We still don't have cabinets for our folded clothes and we tried a new hanging system but found we need nets over them to keep them from being flung all over the v berth when they start to swing around.
Scott hooked up the new reef point on the jib and when we were ready to go back to a full jib, we couldn't raise it back up. It was calm enough that Scott decided to go up the headstay and try to fix it but he admitted that he'll never try that again without a secondary line to the main. He kept doing 360's and couldn't stop himself so I brought him down as soon as possible. We tried once more to raise the jib and it did go all the way up so his swinging did something!
The Nature Conservatory had a boat doing research outside the island so they spotted us 10 miles out and hailed us at 6 miles off. We were told that they were going to turn away any other boat because we were the only ones who had done their homework, got the $350 no-rat certification and filled out all forms correctly. It was fun to hear they could tell we were 'hauling'. We were going about 9 knots.
We are now on day 6 of the 7 they allow for a visit. We've had rain every day but squeezed in one snorkel and two hikes around the island. Loved seeing sea turtles, manta rays, huge spiders, TWO coconut crabs out during the day(normally they only come out at night but it was so cloudy and dark, they probably thought that was good enough). Be sure to check out the pictures!
While it rained relentlessly, we got out and cleaned all decks and our cockpit. We then plugged up the hole that allows our steering wheel to drain and proceeded to catch rainwater right into our deck fitting, into every tub/bin we owned and into the wheel well. When we checked in, the rain hadn't started so I asked if we could get water from them. Now there was no reason to haul water, we had more than enough on board.
We loved hearing their story of how they eradicated the 30,000 rats. Look up http://www.belllabs.com/news_articles/69 for a great overview. Email us if you want more info. The administrator, Amanda Meyer at [email protected] gave us the blow-by-blow which was fun. She asked me to write up our connection with Palmyra and the murder story, 'And the Sea will Tell' so that was fun to do also.
Palmyra is beautiful, and it was exciting to make the landfall. With the researchers here, there's people to talk to but we have lots of time to ourselves and of course, the yacht club has all the recordings of past visitors.
As I type this, we are listening to the radio as a rescue takes place right off Palmyra. A skipper of a 65 foot schooner had a fall and possibly insulin shock and Palmyra sent a powerboat out to collect him. The Coast Guard is flying down and will most likely take him back to Hawaii. Too bad it had to start at 5:45am with a loud alarm sounding. We were sure it was a tsunami warning bell. It's now after 10am and the skipper is still being transported in. Palmyra said they had the Coast Guard communicating on Skype to get all the vitals, etc. I'll try to finish the story in our next blog.
Just got here last night, 4pm but wanted to let people know. More to come about the crossing. Always something to talk about. We used our 3 and 3 package and Scott attempted to go up the headstay to do a repair but aborted that quickly. I'll be back!